Will Your Connection Be Fast Enough For HD?

[Aph0ticShield]

Go to Speedtest.net and paste that cute little picture to show your Onlive HD awesomeness. Remember OnLive requires 4mbps for HD and 1.2mbps for SD.

Here are the rules, you must use the servers in these three locations: San Jose, California (Speedtest.net's server in San Fransisco sucks) or Kansas City, Missouri (For now until we know exactly where it will be) or DC (Is this the closest location to their eastern server?).

NOTE: The 'ping' will no doubt be inaccurate, but the speeds should be a pretty sweet estimate.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/439418679.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[Deya]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/439436992.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[B1553r]

Well needless to say, I hope they pick Chicago as their Co-lo

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[Aph0ticShield]

why? where do you live?

[B1553r]

Between Toledo and Detroit. On the otherhand Google has a huge Isp up in Ann Arbor, and that would be fine by me as well. The newyork tests all put me at the limit of possible:(

[Alfrayer]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/439874196.png (http://www.speedtest.net) Thats to the further place in america =D (I'm from UK)

Here is comparison to London:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/439875029.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

So... Not much different except in the Ping. Lets hope they put a server in London. I'll be upgraded to 10 MB by then anyway.. Its only £2 extra a month for another 7.5 MB.. My Dad keeps telling me its a waste of money though O_O He will crack with extreme pressure to upgrade haha.

[Nill]

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[Swifty]

Ok I need help. My connection is apparently pretty crappy. My computer runs pretty quickly for the most part and I rarely experience lag when I play games online. Right now I'm using a wireless connection so would it make a difference if I ran it wired by chance? Also is there anyway I can up my speed connection because my scores suck compared to everyone elses. Thanks for any help guys.

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[Outlawed Toker]

I'm on a campus, so our network here is kind of slow. i will probably get the road runner turbo service added onto my bill to maximize speed.

back at my house where I will be durring the summer we have 2 seperate connections, and both are business class road runner connections (dads a doctor, needs it for work), and we kinda live out in the middle of nowhere, where nobody is really hogging bandwidth anyway, so I get killer speeds there, the fastest I have ever seen for cable connections.

but yea, so if i get into the beta, i will be good to go, but ill be back at school when it officially releases, so if its still like this next year, I am going to have to do something about it, because onlive will be nothing to me without hd, I wouldn't even want to use it. This current gen console and pc market has submerged me in the high def gaming and its beauty and there is no going back, especially if I am going to be paying subscription fees.

here is my crappy campus connection in my apartment...

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[Aph0ticShield]

Ok I need help. My connection is apparently pretty crappy. My computer runs pretty quickly for the most part and I rarely experience lag when I play games online. Right now I'm using a wireless connection so would it make a difference if I ran it wired by chance? Also is there anyway I can up my speed connection because my scores suck compared to everyone elses. Thanks for any help guys.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/440067762.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Wired may or may not be any faster. My suggestion is to call qwest and upgrade to their better service(Which I know they have).

[Swifty]

Yeah I'll have to call them up. I also wanna try my connection back at school on campus and see if that's any faster seeing as I spend most of my days at school rather than home.

[Aph0ticShield]

Yeah, Schools usually have a faster connection. My school is 50mbps.

[Swifty]

Yeah, Schools usually have a faster connection. My school is 50mbps.

Wow. I'm gonna hope for something similar.

[rasmasyean]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/440182465.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

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[Zacharei]

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Well apparently I'm not going to be able to play :(

[Aph0ticShield]

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Well apparently I'm not going to be able to play :(

Why in the world not?
Well if you live in NC, you should be pretty close to the east server, so there is no need to try the California server. You should be able to be on OnLive in HD!

[rasmasyean]

Wow. For some reason, today I tried it while running a Sivlerlight Stream from here: http://channel9.msdn.com/pdc2008/KYN01/

...and it got faster! Not sure what happened but maybe my ISP gave me more juice just to run the video...

http://www.speedtest.net/result/441029348.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

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[Tyety]

There has to be something wrong here.
Washington DC
http://www.speedtest.net/result/440164490.png

San Jose ,CA
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Kansas City, MO (BOOO)
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[core9a9]

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[Aph0ticShield]

Here is my schoolhttp://www.speedtest.net/result/441720892.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[Bootstrap Bill]

Yeah, Schools usually have a faster connection. My school is 50mbps.

That 50mbps connection may be shared by a couple hundred students.

[B1553r]

That 50mbps connection may be shared by a couple hundred students.

The issue has always been... The ISP's don't want to upgrade their network for illegal or Grey area use of their networks because that makes them liable for "making available" civil copyright lawsuits. When there is a ~valid~ need for more bandwidth, the ISP's have so far always delivered. I am inclined to agree with the ISP's rather than the slashdot crowd on this issue, because I make and sell intellectual property for a living.

Once the school network admins see the network usage go up, and it is not all p2p or file sharing activity, they will get more.

[Aph0ticShield]

That 50mbps connection may be shared by a couple hundred students.

Yes, maybe at the college I go too, which is probably a lot higher.

But, only a max of like 70 people use computers at once at my high school. Only 300 students total.:)

[somerandomguy]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/445399015.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
YES!!! i make it for HD

[Spectrality]

Here is my desktop speed for DC:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/445560798.png (http://www.speedtest.net)


Here is my laptop speed--wireless--for DC:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/445557956.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[AlexTheLion]

Wow...nice wireless speed, who's your isp man?

[Spectrality]

I live in FL and use Brighthouse Networks, who provides Road Runner and Earthlink, I have Road Runner Turbo, which is supposed to be 15 mbps but they have "PowerBoost," which allows extra bandwidth to be transferred to your modem. I thought it was just a gimmick, but it really, really works. I love it, and it is only $10 more than 7 mbps. Also, the computer is a Dell Inspiron from 3-4 years ago with the standard Dell network card, nothing special.

[Aph0ticShield]

I live in FL and use Brighthouse Networks, who provides Road Runner and Earthlink, I have Road Runner Turbo, which is supposed to be 15 mbps but they have "PowerBoost," which allows extra bandwidth to be transferred to your modem. I thought it was just a gimmick, but it really, really works. I love it, and it is only $10 more than 7 mbps. Also, the computer is a Dell Inspiron from 3-4 years ago with the standard Dell network card, nothing special.

Too bad that PowerBoost is only for the 1st MB or so. If it lasted forever I would definitely switch to Comcast.

[AlexTheLion]

Too bad that PowerBoost is only for the 1st MB or so. If it lasted forever I would definitely switch to Comcast.
Well, where I live, comcast does not cover. Sad.:(

[rasmasyean]

I just upgraded. woot! :p

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[rasmasyean]

Here is my schoolhttp://www.speedtest.net/result/441720892.png (http://www.speedtest.net)


Heh, nice. But they might block OnLive.

[AlexTheLion]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/447109539.png (http://www.speedtest.net)


My wirless at school, pretty good eh?

[Alfrayer]

Why do schools have a bigger upload than download? ;'o

[Bootstrap Bill]

I have FiOS here at home (Verizon's Fiberoptic service). 20mb down, five mb up.

Here's the test results. (I'm using a wireless adaptor on a Dell Inspiron 1545 notebook computer)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/447175378.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[AlexTheLion]

Why do schools have a bigger upload than download? ;'o

Probably because the download speed is shared between many students...so is the upload...but not as much.:cool:

[Aph0ticShield]

Heh, nice. But they might block OnLive.

Well, I don't know how they could do that, unless they blocked OnLive.com, but I really doubt that my school would do that since they don't use the block on games. Also, you could just go to onlive.net, or onlive.org: whatever works. Another work around would be to try https://onlive.com. That will sometimes get around a block.

Lucky thing is that my school can't figure out how to use the internet filter, so it's wide open right now.:D

[AlexTheLion]

lol..sounds like fun, our school just got a physical firewall installed, but the guy who is supposed to know how to use it...well....sucks at it. So at our school, there are no blocks right now!

[somerandomguy]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/448982100.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
i didnt realize i had to put it towards dc, but i still make it! yay!

[rasmasyean]

Why do schools have a bigger upload than download? ;'o

Try it at like 3 AM and see what happens. ;)

[Darq]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/448989719.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
This is shared between my and my two room mates (who would both take joy in the OnLive product), so for HD we would maybe would to take a look at upgrading. When OnLive goes live in the Winter though the chances are I'll be in a different apartment with some room mates that aren't much of gamers.

[Tyrokiller]

This is shared between 4 computers in my house, considering im in the UK it isn't too bad of an upload speed. (And AOL :p)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/449243416.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

(Wireless connection also/laptop) - Ethernet reachs much higher on my brothers computer about 8Meg d/l - 500kb up/l

[Revilo62RAWR]

Wow I must have really good internet compared to you guys

http://www.speedtest.net/result/449283705.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

But they said it's advertised as 5 MB not what it actually is, mines advertised at 6 MB so I'm good.

[rasmasyean]

Wow I must have really good internet compared to you guys

http://www.speedtest.net/result/449283705.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

But they said it's advertised as 5 MB not what it actually is, mines advertised at 6 MB so I'm good.

Prolly speedboost. It's supposed to give you like the 1st X amount of data in "boost mode" or something like that. However, your sustained speed is what they advertise. Unless they just upgraded you and you got lucky.

[AlexTheLion]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/449462335.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

This is the wired internet at my school, its pretty fast, but I don't know what is up with the upload right now.

[Revilo62RAWR]

Prolly speedboost. It's supposed to give you like the 1st X amount of data in "boost mode" or something like that. However, your sustained speed is what they advertise. Unless they just upgraded you and you got lucky.

If comcast has all users using speed boost then maybe

[rasmasyean]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/449462335.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

This is the wired internet at my school, its pretty fast, but I don't know what is up with the upload right now.

Well, your school also may serve videos and / or other web services to the outside world so maybe you caught them during a streaming peak or a broadcast event?

[Ed]

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I wish it was faster but this is better then I had last year lol.

[Aph0ticShield]

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I wish it was faster but this is better then I had last year lol.

Hey that is good enough as long as it is realiable. Oh wait, I would get that latency checked out by running a ping test in command prompt. If there is truely a problem then run a tracert and see where the problem is occuring.

[AlexTheLion]

That latency isnt really bad...its just slow...maybe test it again?

[rasmasyean]

Check out the bandwidth stress test I conducted here:
http://onlivefans.com/showthread.php?t=274

Maybe you can try the same and see what you get. :)

[AlexTheLion]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/451293409.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

This is the connectivity speed from Utah Valley University, and their internet is shared with tons of students...so considering that...I am getting pretty good speeds.

[Aph0ticShield]

Once again... AlexTheLion, your many internet connections defy all odds, well at least for Utah standards. Quick question, did you use the wired or wireless at UVU?

[mee]

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[Aph0ticShield]

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You are quite ready for HD mee. Good luck to you and welcome to the forum.

[nOizeR]

I hope my connection is good enough for OnLive..., I live in sweden and Im testing my connection to norway... :)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/453198200.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

And this one is from me (sweden) to New York.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/453201431.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[rasmasyean]

I hope my connection is good enough for OnLive..., I live in sweden and Im testing my connection to norway... :)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/453198200.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

And this one is from me (sweden) to New York.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/453201431.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Well, that ping might be a problem for fast action games.

Just wondering...what kind of stuff do you guys do out there that would take that much bandwidth that they offer it for sale. Does eveyone have a home page in their house with like video files you share or something?

[AlexTheLion]

Once again... AlexTheLion, your many internet connections defy all odds, well at least for Utah standards. Quick question, did you use the wired or wireless at UVU?

Wired connection.

[Aph0ticShield]

Well, that ping might be a problem for fast action games.

Just wondering...what kind of stuff do you guys do out there that would take that much bandwidth that they offer it for sale. Does eveyone have a home page in their house with like video files you share or something?

Yeah, um that is some insane bandwidth. I wonder why it doesn't all carry to the US. If OnLive was available in sweden you would be set, but they will probably block your IP address so that you cannot access even though you have a very low latency for that many miles.

[nOizeR]

Im not sure Onlive will work even in the US... as other people typing, internet arent good enough yet... It would be more accurate if this thing was tested in a country as Sweden due to the high internet speeds...

If you check my internet testing above you can see that i lose alot of bandwidth when the distance is as far as from Sweden to New york... and when i host games (over XBL) and play with americans they complain alot over my connection, how bad it is... But If they would test their connection from the US to Stockholm they would get almost 0.00 connection and a crazy high ping i guess.... When I play GOW 2 on american host I get around 3 sec delay but i doubt that they get that bad connection to me!... Can someone test their connection from the US to Sweden?
Would be interesting

[jeff]

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[C Rex seven19]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/453726984.png (http://www.speedtest.net) Is this too fast? lol

[Alfrayer]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/453726984.png (http://www.speedtest.net) Is this too fast? lol

You can never be too fast ;)

[Darq]

You can never be too fast ;)

Heh, I suppose it depends on what you're talking about..

[Aenima]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/453889778.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/453891520.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

i can has HD or not?

[BeteNoire]

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http://www.speedtest.net/result/453891520.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

i can has HD or not?

Yes, easily.

[Omar]

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[Spectrality]

Anybody happen to know if they mentioned anything about upload speeds? I wouldn't expect they would be very high, but anyone have an idea what we need? .5? Less? Thanks!

[Tyrokiller]

Yep would like to know this answer myself, so far none of the articles i've seen have provided that information.

[AlexTheLion]

Yep would like to know this answer myself, so far none of the articles i've seen have provided that information.

Well, when you speak of connection speeds, you are usually talking about upload and download combined. For example digis, which is a popular isp where I live, offers a 7 mbps connection, 4 mbps download and 3 mbps upload, 7mbps total connection speed. I don't know if HD gaming will require 5 mbps combined connection speed, or 5 mbps download speed alone. I would think though, that upload speed wouldn't be too critical, because you are mostly getting information from the Onlive superserver, and the only thing you are sending to the server is your commands.

If anyone has more info, or better info..please feel free to add information and/or correct me.

[Aph0ticShield]

Well, when you speak of connection speeds, you are usually talking about upload and download combined. For example digis, which is a popular isp where I live, offers a 7 mbps connection, 4 mbps download and 3 mbps upload, 7mbps total connection speed. I don't know if HD gaming will require 5 mbps combined connection speed, or 5 mbps download speed alone. I would think though, that upload speed wouldn't be too critical, because you are mostly getting information from the Onlive superserver, and the only thing you are sending to the server is your commands.

If anyone has more info, or better info..please feel free to add information and/or correct me.

Ahh alex alex. No, Digis is 5mbps download and 2mbps up. I am also pretty sure that the 5mbps that they require is only the download portion of the equation.

I can bet that upload will be near 50kbps or .05mbps for one controller. Double or triple that for one bluetooth voice. So four controllers all with bluetooth voice for each could reach an upward of .6mbps.

[Alfrayer]

Heh, I suppose it depends on what you're talking about..

Now Now Darq ;) Keep it clean.

[Aph0ticShield]

Now Now Darq ;) Keep it clean.

I don't think he meant anything by that. :D You're brain is just demented.

[Darq]

Uhh.. yeah.. no idea what you're referencing there. C'mon, get your mind out of the gutter. :D

[Soulz]

Is this good ?

http://www.speedtest.net/result/458210123.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[AlexTheLion]

Like wicked sick awesome download! What's with the upload speeds though? Either way, you are ready for HD, congratulations.

[Soulz]

Yeah i have no idea wats up with my upload but i wonder what would happen if you have the equipment for hd but your internet service is not up for it.


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[JoYnEr]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/458246378.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Looks Like im ready 4 HD LoL

[rasmasyean]

Well, it looks like more and more people are streaming HD so you can prolly test it if you have a thing for movies.

Amazon has added HD content to its Video on Demand service. The upgraded content is available for viewing via a Mac or PC, and also for streaming to compatible devices like Roku's streaming player and some HDTVs.
http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2009/04/amazon-video-on-demand-goes-high-definition.ars (http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2009/04/amazon-video-on-demand-goes-high-definition.ars)

Amazon Video on Demand HD on Roku Video Player hands-on
http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/amazon-video-on-demand-goes-hd-we-go-hands-on/ (http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/amazon-video-on-demand-goes-hd-we-go-hands-on/)
Also, check these. There might be some HD videos on some of these sites.


Top 20 Video Sites | April 2009
http://www.ebizmba.com/articles/video (http://www.ebizmba.com/articles/video)

Spider-Man 2 @ 720p
http://www.crackle.com/c/Spider-Man_2

[Aph0ticShield]

Yeah i have no idea wats up with my upload but i wonder what would happen if you have the equipment for hd but your internet service is not up for it.


What would happen is that you would be scaled down to Standard Definition.



Well, it looks like more and more people are streaming HD so you can prolly test it if you have a thing for movies.

I would test it with full length episodes from ABC.com (http://abc.com)
This website has HD and is much more efficient than flash player. It runs on the Move Networks Player. I am guess that this technology is very similar to OnLive because there are no real buffer times and the quality adjusts automatically to your connection speed.

[AlexTheLion]

I am guess that this technology is very similar to OnLive because there are no real buffer times and the quality adjusts automatically to your connection speed.

Except that when watching movies and/or TV, you aren't uploading anything.

[Aph0ticShield]

Except that when watching movies and/or TV, you aren't uploading anything.

True, but there isn't that much difference when you add on the uploading part. Also, I believe that there is still a little uploading because in order for it to calibrate speed and such, it needs to know stuff from the client.

[BreaK]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/460168190.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/460171644.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Did I do this right? It just doesn't seem right to me haha.

[Aph0ticShield]

Did I do this right? It just doesn't seem right to me haha.

No, you did it wrong:rolleyes:. I am just kidding. HOLY CRAP!! Is that speed even legal? Yes, that will work.

Your internet is 100% future proof. You could run 10800p resolution (yes, with the extra zero).

Hey, welcome to the forum!

[Soulz]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/460168190.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/460171644.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Did I do this right? It just doesn't seem right to me haha.


Amazing! Do you have fios or something. I'm serisouly jealous right now : P

[BreaK]

Nope, although I'm planning on getting it when it is in my area, haha :)

[Tyrokiller]

Hmm, I smell that this person has come from the future with l33t connectiuns to change the present. Am I close? :D

[Revilo62RAWR]

Hopefully his 1337 connections will be here soon! =D

[AlexTheLion]

I smell photoshop....:p :D. No, really, how did you get that connection speed?

[Aph0ticShield]

Nope, although I'm planning on getting it when it is in my area, haha :)

Don't! FIOS will definitely not be that good. Keep it.

[nOizeR]

Thats not really a good connection if you check the upload speed... upload is more important than download... for example: If you would host a game from the US to europe with a 150 / 2 connection you would have a connection like 15 / 0.2 .... so BreaK would you like to test your connection to stockholm sweden?

[Soulz]

Thats not really a good connection if you check the upload speed... upload is more important than download... for example: If you would host a game from the US to europe with a 150 / 2 connection you would have a connection like 15 / 0.2 .... so BreaK would you like to test your connection to stockholm sweden?


He has the highest connection I've seen yet and I haven't seen anyone with over 2mb/s upload speed so I'm guessing thats pretty high.

[rasmasyean]

Thats not really a good connection if you check the upload speed... upload is more important than download... for example: If you would host a game from the US to europe with a 150 / 2 connection you would have a connection like 15 / 0.2 .... so BreaK would you like to test your connection to stockholm sweden?


What are you talking about? Why would he "host" a game for anyone in HD?

The reason why they limit your UL is so you don't do any "hosting". You have to pay a separate plan to "conduct business" over the internet or go with a business interent provider and use their servers. The alternative is to make your own servers but this will only work if you have a small business that isn't highly trafficed. But then you're prolly better off renting hosting space with a provider rather than leve your computer on 24/7 and worry about backup.

[nOizeR]

so you mean 2mbit upload it good enough for players between USA europe and japan? i know ur not hosting when using ONLIVE. It was an example of connection... but u mean that if you're playing a 16 player online game with people from europe you think its enough to have 0.2mbit upload (because that is what 2mbit from US to europe is). that mean that you can maximum send 20kb/sec to those players... maybe im wrong but i still think that you have to send info, not just download :confused:

[Soulz]

so you mean 2mbit upload it good enough for players between USA europe and japan? i know ur not hosting when using ONLIVE. It was an example of connection... but u mean that if you're playing a 16 player online game with people from europe you think its enough to have 0.2mbit upload (because that is what 2mbit from US to europe is). that mean that you can maximum send 20kb/sec to those players... maybe im wrong but i still think that you have to send info, not just download :confused:

I guess thats why there is usually lagg when playing people from different countires.

[rasmasyean]

I guess thats why there is usually lagg when playing people from different countires.


There is latency, and there's bandwidth. What you are talking about is latency. A lot of advanced games (like WoW) do not need high bandwidth. But latency is often an issue with long distances. They solve that in other ways...such as not requiring instant response. You can have a 1Gbit bandwidth, but that isn't going to solve latency. Look at the difference in "ping" when you test with different servers.

[Aph0ticShield]

Thats not really a good connection if you check the upload speed... upload is more important than download... for example: If you would host a game from the US to europe with a 150 / 2 connection you would have a connection like 15 / 0.2 .... so BreaK would you like to test your connection to stockholm sweden?

You don't lose your speed over distances, except for packet loss and crappy connections. If you played a game from the US to Europe (Which would not be possible on OnLive), you would only introduce latency like others has said. You should still be able to retain most of the 150mbps.

[BreaK]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/461440371.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I'm also on a network with two other users, not sure if that effects anything.

[nOizeR]

Wow im impressed BreaK. Your upload is still high due to the major distance :eek:

[thx247]

You don't lose your speed over distances, except for packet loss and crappy connections. If you played a game from the US to Europe (Which would not be possible on OnLive), you would only introduce latency like others has said. You should still be able to retain most of the 150mbps.

Actually every hop (device your traffic passes through) can influence the speed of your connection. If a router I traffic through in NYC on my way to Stockholm is slow then I'm at the mercy of the router in NYC.

Latency is similar, in that each additional hop imparts its own delay on your traffic.

You can see these results from a network here on the westcoast, talking to various test points east of here.

This is the nearest (fewest hops) server to this fiber connection
http://www.speedtest.net/result/461542950.png

This is to NYC, more hops, more latency and less bandwidth

http://www.speedtest.net/result/461531623.png

This it to Sweden, with even more latency
http://www.speedtest.net/result/461531269.png


There are some other problems that speed tests like these impart-

This test was done from the same server as the above, but done through a terminal session (like citrix or VLC). Likely the flash code that speedtest.net imparts a bottleneck on the connection, making the download speed appear slower than it truly is capable of.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/460380685.png

This can be resolved using a lighter weight testing utility, like the one that DSL reports offers

http://i.dslr.net/imc/0/7/5/3/70748723.png
Much better results now that the testing utility isn't slowing things down.

[Soulz]

Speechless. Where are you guys getting these connections from

[rasmasyean]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/460168190.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/460171644.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Did I do this right? It just doesn't seem right to me haha.

What you can try is to run a couple of hulu shows and test it during the stream. This way you might be able to rule out "powerboosting for the first X MB" or whatever optimum advertises.

[Magichands88]

Washington, DC
http://www.speedtest.net/result/461917969.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

San Jose, CA
http://www.speedtest.net/result/461920867.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Kansas City, MO
http://www.speedtest.net/result/461921768.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I'm in Florida, so regardless of where this is set up, I should be straight :D

[AlexTheLion]

Looks like your ready for HD, congrats!

[Aph0ticShield]

I'm in Florida, so regardless of where this is set up, I should be straight :D

More like you should be straight annoyed because of the distance from you to the servers. Hopefully when they roll out their grand total of five servers, one will be located near Florida; you guys almost get as bad coverage as Montana. That's sad.:(

GL to you. You will be able to get HD with Comcast Business, but you will probably feel some latency. Not much though.

[Magichands88]

I think I remember hearing somewhere that they were planning on setting up a server in Texas. If so, that will probably be the closest one to me (I'm in Tallahassee, way up in North Florida) so it shouldn't probably be too bad. Hopefully. Now it's just the waiting game to see how everything plays out. Here's to hoping!

[maddman87]

My wireless speed
http://www.speedtest.net/result/464943392.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
From New York
http://www.speedtest.net/result/464947146.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[Aph0ticShield]

maddman, your latency doesn't make any sense. You have a 92ms latency for your next door neighbor, but a 47ms latency for a server 1050 miles away! This sounds like a routing problem to me.

Looks like OnLive should work just fine for you, however.

[AlexTheLion]

Could be a one-time problem, does it happen often?

[Charlie]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/497284372.png (http://www.speedtest.net) I'm good

[ryanswo07]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/497403889.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
get some

[WarheadSj423]

heres mine: http://www.speedtest.net/result/498243114.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[MrHegemony]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/498610185.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Looking forward to this on my HD screen at home - happy fun times! :D

[Aph0ticShield]

Hmm... You might want to check those ping times with another server. You're latency will killjoy all of your OnLive fun.

[catagris]

Yep kickin' it in Korea for the Summer.

San Jose, California
http://www.speedtest.net/result/501150659.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Kansas City, Missouri
http://www.speedtest.net/result/501151390.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

DC
http://www.speedtest.net/result/501152092.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

And Seoul Korea Just to show off. :)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/501153333.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

And guess how much I pay per month? 60$ hehe and That's the apartment package including Water, Internet and TV. $60. well exactly 60,00won so really in the 50s
Bet that. ;)

[Tiburo]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/510545255.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

i hope 0.3 Mbit/s is fast enough to send my button mashes

[Aph0ticShield]

i hope 0.3 Mbit/s is fast enough to send my button mashes

Easily, assuming that it will only send just "button mashes". Video chat, however, won't be the best for the other guy watching you. XD

[aquajam77]

Is there anything that I could do to increase my upload speed? or does that really matter?

i have 6.57 download and .39 upload

[ryanswo07]

Your upload speed won't matter when it comes to people watching you play. Onlive has 2 different streams going on their servers, the video feed for you, and the feed it uses for brag clips and spectating

[aquajam77]

oh, ok, thanks

[efredman]

I have AT&T's best service in St. Louis, MO. It caps at 6MB.

At least I think it is AT&T's best service plan.... Am I doing something wrong?

[efredman]

..upping speedtest now...

[efredman]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/512306298.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/512307287.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/512307916.png (http://www.speedtest.net)


I have AT&T's best service in St. Louis, MO. It caps at 6MB.

At least I think it is AT&T's best service plan.... Am I doing something wrong?

[rodeo7]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/512386698.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/512392244.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

On wireless at the moment and should still be fine for HD.

[ryanswo07]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/512386698.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/512392244.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

On wireless at the moment and should still be fine for HD.

Where are you located?

[rodeo7]

Where are you located?

In New Jersey, a little ways outside of NYC. Odd that the closer one to me came up slower.

[rasmasyean]

Check out this adjustible bandwidth tool. I believe it does 1080p at 4930 kbps. At least that's what it looks like to me.

http://www.iis.net/media/experiencesmoothstreaming1080p

EDIT: Link was edited because original post pointed to 720p version.

[Aph0ticShield]

Check out this adjustible bandwidth tool. I believe it does 1080p at 2750 kbps. At least that's what it looks like to me.

http://www.iis.net/media/experiencesmoothstreaming

It is probably 720p, but that is one awesome link! Works exactly like the Move Networks Player, but IDK, Silverlight just might be better. I love adaptive streaming!

[rasmasyean]

It is probably 720p, but that is one awesome link! Works exactly like the Move Networks Player, but IDK, Silverlight just might be better. I love adaptive streaming!


Really, it looked so detailed. I read that it can do 1080p though. Maybe this is what NetFlix will use. It's hardware accelerated too.

[Aph0ticShield]

Really, it looked so detailed. I read that it can do 1080p though. Maybe this is what NetFlix will use. It's hardware accelerated too.

LOL... Netflix doesn't have HD on their website (As far as I know)... only on select boxes like the Xbox 360. That would be cool if they had it on their website though.

[rasmasyean]

LOL... Netflix doesn't have HD on their website (As far as I know)... only on select boxes like the Xbox 360. That would be cool if they had it on their website though.

Thye use Silverlight. And I said maybe "will" use. Phht... HD snot! :rolleyes:

[rasmasyean]

Damn that was the wrong link. LOL

http://www.iis.net/media/experiencesmoothstreaming1080p

[Halow]

So.. I can play HD right? =)

15.74 MBPS Download
8.59 MBPS Upload
*Cant post link as I have 1 post.*

I am in Chicago BTW.. tested the Missouri server.

[Aph0ticShield]

Damn that was the wrong link. LOL

http://www.iis.net/media/experiencesmoothstreaming1080p

Hmm... Nice. I still can't seem to stream over the 2.05M mark.


So.. I can play HD right? =)

15.74 MBPS Download
8.59 MBPS Upload
*Cant post link as I have 1 post.*

I am in Chicago BTW.. tested the Missouri server.

Yes... you definitely can. You didn't post the latency however. That is key to determining if you will experience any lag while playing.

[rasmasyean]

Hmm... Nice. I still can't seem to stream over the 2.05M mark.



Yes... you definitely can. You didn't post the latency however. That is key to determining if you will experience any lag while playing.


Well, it's just a demo for people who want to buy the IIS services and perhaps it's not meant to carry any type of real load. I got the full near 5 but I did see it drop on occasion. Perhaps it's just luck if you're hit it while not many ppl are watching it.

[Halow]

Yes... you definitely can. You didn't post the latency however. That is key to determining if you will experience any lag while playing.

Here is a test update at 4:00PM my time which is near peak hours.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/529733109.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[Aph0ticShield]

Here is a test update at 4:00PM my time which is near peak hours.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/529733109.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Oh... You have Comcast. This means that your speedtest is running on the comcast speedboost. So, you kind of cheated.:p In reality, you will only get those speeds for the first 10MB of a file. At least, that is what they claim.

[MAG1270]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/530024612.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
My upload sucks :/

I live in europe, so thought it would be nice to see what my connection would be across the atlantic :D
http://www.speedtest.net/result/530025406.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
But sadly the ping is too high to use OnLive :/

What's wierd about those two speedtests is that my upload almost is the same from 50 miles to 3850 miles but my download is 50% slower! How can that be? :confused:

[Halow]

Oh... You have Comcast. This means that your speedtest is running on the comcast speedboost. So, you kind of cheated.:p In reality, you will only get those speeds for the first 10MB of a file. At least, that is what they claim.

Ahh so what does that mean for my connection? I run 2 computers and my XBOX on my network at all times... even when I did my speedtest.

[antech]

Connection closest to me>>
http://www.speedtest.net/result/531052508.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Others>>
http://www.speedtest.net/result/531053136.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/531053480.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

i know my connections are bad at the moment but ill be shure to upgrade :)

[Aph0ticShield]

Ahh so what does that mean for my connection? I run 2 computers and my XBOX on my network at all times... even when I did my speedtest.

Right, but every time you start downloading something new, the speed goes up really high for just the first 10MB with comcast (Correct me if I am wrong). No doubt your speed will be fast, but not that fast while you are downloading a large file or playing OnLive.

[Diarrhea]

Connection to San Jose, CA

http://www.speedtest.net/result/535224475.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Connection to Frankfurt, Germany

http://www.speedtest.net/result/535225931.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Connection to Zurich, Switzerland

http://www.speedtest.net/result/535226469.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

BTW, I'm around Brussels, Belgium. ;)

[Alfrayer]

Just thought I'd post my speeds since Virgin upgraded me to 10 MB =D

London:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/535307828.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

San Jose:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/535308599.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

It is strange that my download holds up connecting to San Jose but yours doesn't Diarrhea =P In fact, my upload is even bigger lol. Strange strange world.

[Aph0ticShield]

It is strange that my download holds up connecting to San Jose but yours doesn't Diarrhea =P In fact, my upload is even bigger lol. Strange strange world.

It is probably because Virgin has great peering overseas while "belgacom" umm.. doesn't. They haven't paid their royalties to the higher ups.:D

[ThingsontheWeb]

I think I should be fine for HD ... I hope

http://www.speedtest.net/result/535488270.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[Livingamer]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/536131516.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/536132083.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[Revilo62RAWR]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/536131516.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/536132083.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

You don't have to post it twice, only if u test from 2 different places....

[rasmasyean]

Hmm... Nice. I still can't seem to stream over the 2.05M mark.


Hey you know what, now that I think about it, maybe that's what the smooth streaming is about. It adapts to your hardware. This picture shows it going a bit higher than my max too and my monitor is 1680 x 1050 only. Maybe it scales down the bandwidth to do "just enough" bitrate for your particular video card / monitor combo.

http://www.iis.net/images/content/smooth-streaming/limit-bit-rate-slider.jpg

[rasmasyean]

So.. I can play HD right? =)

15.74 MBPS Download
8.59 MBPS Upload
*Cant post link as I have 1 post.*

I am in Chicago BTW.. tested the Missouri server.

Try this site:
http://www.iis.net/media/experiencesmoothstreaming1080p

It looks like "true HD" is arround 5436 kbps. If you can reach this mark, it may be because the software determines that your computer can handle and display 1080p. However, that's only a guess on my part as to how the video plugin works. :p

[CaNiBaL Elite]

Get slapped!! :P
http://www.speedtest.net/rank/418719009.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[Alfrayer]

Get slapped!! :P
http://www.speedtest.net/rank/418719009.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Is that your own home connection? =O
Or a business/school?

[CaNiBaL Elite]

Is that your own home connection? =O
Or a business/school?

Why yes that is my home line. I'm a CNC machinist, no pc play at work. Comcast DOCSIS 3.0 will blow Fios out of the water. I have seen home speeds in excess of 250/100 which is not fully rolled out. Not to mention I see Fios has nasty lag. I get pings to west 50-70ms, Chicago 10-15ms, East 25-40ms, From MN. Have to love my Cable ISP.

[Pure Reflex]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/540780052.png

[Aph0ticShield]

Why yes that is my home line. I'm a CNC machinist, no pc play at work. Comcast DOCSIS 3.0 will blow Fios out of the water. I have seen home speeds in excess of 250/100 which is not fully rolled out. Not to mention I see Fios has nasty lag. I get pings to west 50-70ms, Chicago 10-15ms, East 25-40ms, From MN. Have to love my Cable ISP.

I don't understand how you assume that FIOS has nasty lag. It is theoretically the fastest. It can travel at the speed of light, unlike cable. The internet is based on Fiber-optics. In most cases it should reduce the latency to almost nothing.

[chrisrobhay2]

My Wireless N network sucks. My computer with a cable connection gets 13 Mbps download speed, while my Wireless N computer gets 4 Mbps download speed.

[Ascii89]

My connection is advertised as 8Mbps dwn and 512Kbps upstream however i get these readings:

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg194/Ascii_18/hd.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg194/Ascii_18/hd2.jpg

[rasmasyean]

I don't understand how you assume that FIOS has nasty lag. It is theoretically the fastest. It can travel at the speed of light, unlike cable. The internet is based on Fiber-optics. In most cases it should reduce the latency to almost nothing.

Technically, EM waves travel at the speed of light, which includes electricity that is “guided” by a cable line. If the fiber optic line can be “longer” and reduce the jumps to your house on average, then you will have less latency…assuming that the fiber optic enabled routers are equal to or faster than the cable routers in that last mile after it has already gone through the internet fiber backbone.

[Alfrayer]

Technically, EM waves travel at the speed of light, which includes electricity that is “guided” by a cable line. If the fiber optic line can be “longer” and reduce the jumps to your house on average, then you will have less latency…assuming that the fiber optic enabled routers are equal to or faster than the cable routers in that last mile after it has already gone through the internet fiber backbone.

Thats because all Electromagnetic waves ARE light lol =P
However nothing with a physical mass can reach the speed of light otherwise its mass becomes infinite. Even though electrical charge does not possess "Mass", it has to travel through electrons in the cable line. Whilst the mass of an electron is something silly like 0.00055 relative (9.11 x 10^-36 kg or something tiny like that) to a proton/neutron, the mass being there still means its out right impossible in terms of physics to reach the speed of light =P So fibre optics in theory is always going to be faster.

However "fibre optics" is a scam =P I have Virgin Media internet in England and they are advertised af Fibre Optics however its not fibre optics the whole distance, they use a combination of different connections and converters for the signal type, so only about 1/4 of the signals journey is actually fibre optics.

[Ascii89]

The most common configuration ISP's use when talking about fiber optic, well the backbone would of course be fiber optic, then the small bit which connects your home to their rails is usually coax. At least thats how its done over here :P.

[Alfrayer]

The most common configuration ISP's use when talking about fiber optic, well the backbone would of course be fiber optic, then the small bit which connects your home to their rails is usually coax. At least thats how its done over here :P.

Yeah, i was over exagerating on the 1/4th, but fibre optics are only used to cover the main ground, in as the long distances, the rest is done on coaxle.

[Outlawed Toker]

Surprised for having this speed on a standard cable connection..

http://www.speedtest.net/result/542284833.png

[rasmasyean]

Thats because all Electromagnetic waves ARE light lol =P
However nothing with a physical mass can reach the speed of light otherwise its mass becomes infinite. Even though electrical charge does not possess "Mass", it has to travel through electrons in the cable line. Whilst the mass of an electron is something silly like 0.00055 relative (9.11 x 10^-36 kg or something tiny like that) to a proton/neutron, the mass being there still means its out right impossible in terms of physics to reach the speed of light =P So fibre optics in theory is always going to be faster.

However "fibre optics" is a scam =P I have Virgin Media internet in England and they are advertised af Fibre Optics however its not fibre optics the whole distance, they use a combination of different connections and converters for the signal type, so only about 1/4 of the signals journey is actually fibre optics.

That’s not exactly how it works. If you want to get “technical” about it…

If there was a direct line with no breaks to your house theoretically...

A photon is shot out of the “server area” and has to travel miles until it hits your house.

The electron that is moved out of the server DOES NOT travel all the way to your house. It’s more analogous to “pushing” all the other electrons along path and the electron at the end of your cable gets bumped into your modem. In a sense, the voltage change (equivalent to a radio wave) gets propagated (at the speed of light in copper, etc.) to push electrons along the way. They actually bounce all over the place, but on average you can think of it as inching forward.

What you are confused with is an electron beam (a.k.a. cathode ray) that is inside a tube monitor. Those are “flying electrons” that actually come from a “gun” and hit the phosphor elements on your CRT. ;)

[Aph0ticShield]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/542832053.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

My school's internet is very fast ATM.

[wolfman18336]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/545481330.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

This is just annoying:mad:. I thought DSL was supposed to be fast.

[MAG1270]

Yay! I'm moving :D And if I can convince my father about changing internet provider we'll get 100/10 Mbit/s instead of our current 10/1 Mbit/s :D Oh, and it's flatrate :3

The wierdest thing though is that the upgrade wont cost any different? o.O I guess our current provider just sucks :)

[Revilo62RAWR]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/542832053.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

My school's internet is very fast ATM.

Nice upload speed for 600 miles away but my download is better at 600 miles away
http://www.speedtest.net/result/546078636.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

(Weird thing is I tested a place 550 away and it was only like 23 mps O.o)

[Aph0ticShield]

Nice upload speed for 600 miles away but my download is better at 600 miles away

(Weird thing is I tested a place 550 away and it was only like 23 mps O.o)

Distance does not = speed. It all depends on the capabilities of the server and the peering of your ISP. Also, you used comcast w/ speedboost, which means that you really won't be getting those speeds normally.

[Revilo62RAWR]

Wait what?

[MAG1270]

Apparently comcast boost your connection for the first 10MB (or 100MB?) of a request which makes it seem like your connection is faster than it actually is.. sounds like a crappy isp to me..

"Distance does not = speed" basically means that the connection between you and a server isn't a straight line, the connection could be directed anywhere depending on what your isp have chosen it to do.

[Revilo62RAWR]

My downloads I make are all at a constant rate of download speed, it matters where I DL from but it's always at leased 400 kbps pretty much.... some times up to like 700 kbps

[Lord Oblivion]

I hope this is enough...My ping kinda sucks, and I'm worried about the Upload speed. But my connection is rock solid. It almost never changes from these numbers:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/556497402.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[KeVstA]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/556539311.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[BaLLiN]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/556782349.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/556783666.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[Evofusion]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/556792588.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

That's at work

At home I have relatively the same connection, except I know my up is around 512kb

[Aph0ticShield]

That's at work

At home I have relatively the same connection, except I know my up is around 512kb
you might want to check that latency because it respectfuly sucks.

[h1web]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/559509880.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/559517078.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Not bad I say, think I could handle it. :)

[Tyrokiller]

College connection:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/565655760.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[Anton2k]

Yea not good i know but considring i am 4 miles away from the exchange its prety good.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/566286986.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[carters786]

Yes I have 8.66 mb/s!:D

[Onlivefan#1]

Hey I cant go on here cuz it dont work on my wii and I think at my home we have a 100 mbps connection is that fast dueds?

[Revilo62RAWR]

it's not 100 mbps that's just to fast, no one has that at home...

[MAG1270]

it's not 100 mbps that's just to fast, no one has that at home...

Ehm.. yes? :rolleyes: If I change to fiber optics I can get a 100/10 Mbps connection fairly cheap, without caps and with phone :3

[Aph0ticShield]

Ehm.. yes? :rolleyes: If I change to fiber optics I can get a 100/10 Mbps connection fairly cheap, without caps and with phone :3

But whether it actually runs at 100Mbps is another thing. For crying out loud, my hard drive can't even write that fast.

[Anton2k]

This fast enought lol my colleges Connection.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/570745487.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

XD

[rasmasyean]

It looks like rollouts of DOCSIS 3.0 are beginning in my area....


At A Glance

Launch: September 24, 2009 Availability: Currently in NYC Downstream Speed: 50 Mbps Upstream Speed: 5 Mbps

http://www.timewarnercable.com/nynj/learn/hso/wideband-internet/default.html

[slammingsam]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/582293491.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

i live really close to there

[Aph0ticShield]

This thread is closed because Version 2 of this thread has been created!:D

http://onlivefans.com/showthread.php?t=1229