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glow

05-24-2011, 01:46 AM

The size of some recent signatures has gotten way out of hand. Not the dimensions (which can be annoying) but the actual size of the file.

Look at this post.

http://onlivefans.com/showthread.php?7863-Red-FAction-Guerella-or-Metro-2033&p=66653&viewfull=1#post66653

That person's signature is 5 megabytes! Wtf?

To put it in perspective, to view that thread containing the signature on a...

1.5Mbit connection - 50 seconds to download the full page
6Mbit connection - 8 seconds to download the full page

This will also kill people who browse on mobile connections, etc.

Warren

05-24-2011, 02:32 AM

I've completely disabled signatures in the options. There's no reason for them really, just a waste of space. If you don't wish to completely disable them, I'd suggest installing adblock into your browser and blocking specific signatures/pictures you do not wish to see. That will at least hold you over until some regulations regarding signature size can be put into place.

Mesan3

05-24-2011, 03:14 AM

completely agree
one time it made my computer stop
but i was using an old slow one

tibbon

05-24-2011, 04:00 AM

And its highly insensitive to people on mobile devices. Some people like looking at the site on their iPad/iPhone on 3G

Ludicrum

05-24-2011, 06:20 AM

Yeah, a 5mb sig is as ridiculous as it is unnecessary. There should be a limit in place for those on lower speed connections.

tibbon

05-24-2011, 12:34 PM

Yeah, a 5mb sig is as ridiculous as it is unnecessary. There should be a limit in place for those on lower speed connections.

Or just no animated gifs. They dont' make for a good reading experience and add nothing to the conversation.

THE FUTURE

05-24-2011, 01:05 PM

I turn off all avatar pics and signatures on all forums I browse. What is the point of them? Does some anime chick as your avatar or an overproduced animated gif as your signature tell me anything about who you are as a person? (Yes, but not what you think it does.)

glow

06-03-2011, 01:26 PM

http://onlivefans.com/showthread.php?8047-What-about-Mafia-II-Nudity-in-facebook-bragclips

There's a 12MB page to load because of these dumb sigs... One guy even goes as far as having 2 animated GIFs. One being 5 megs, another 3 megs.

Germaximus

06-03-2011, 05:03 PM

THorselion

06-03-2011, 05:13 PM

:p

I just like for people to see what Ive created. I don't try to put a over-sized sign. Just to show my little work that took a long time to create.

I think there should be a limit. But it shouldnt be restricted.

Why not put an option button that allow others to not have to see sign. or avatars?

KicknGuitar

06-03-2011, 08:21 PM

People do it for entertainment and to express themselves in some cases.

They shouldnt be limited because you dont like it especially when you have the option to turn them off yourself.
I would understand it being a problem if you couldnt actually do anything about it, but you can.

I totally agree some of them go way too far. Ive had a bad time dealing with signatures on Tera's forums where people literally have a signature 3x the size of these reply boxes.
Actually, we have quite a few signature here that are typically the same size if not longer than the posts they leave.

If people enjoy expressing yourself in LARGE format, I suggest they join the appropriate forum for the artist in them, i.e. an imageboard.

There's a reason why people created signature bars...

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/5500/winnerbar.jpg

The true skill will come out when one is restricted.

Esquire

07-05-2011, 04:51 PM

Bump.

Having huge images in signatures is disingenuous. What's the point? I also hate that one signature with flashing neon text.

Germaximus

07-05-2011, 04:56 PM

I honestly wonder if they just dont know how to make a normal sized sig. =p

ariskany_evan

07-05-2011, 04:56 PM

1. Go to Settings in the top right corner when you're signed in
2. Under the "My Settings" list on the left side choose "General Settings"
3. Scroll down until you see the "Thread Display Options"
4. Uncheck "Show Signatures" (and "Show Avatars" if you want to take it that far)
5. Scroll all the way to the bottom of the page and click "Save Changes"

I've had that on for a couple of months and find my experience on this site to be vastly improved.

KicknGuitar

07-05-2011, 05:04 PM

The signature doesn't bother me. The size does.

ThomO

07-05-2011, 05:22 PM

Germaximus

07-05-2011, 05:29 PM

Many people replying to this thread are missing the point. The issue is neither the picture size nor the file size, the issue is slow page loading time. This issue arises from two fronts. One being the file size and the other being the poor internet infrastructure within the US of A. Yes, these larger file signatures cause a problem for people with really crappy internet in this country, but so does Onlive. Think about it.

Well youre semi-right.
Its not just one issue.
I always forget about the loading thing cuz i dont usually have problems with that but i do take issue with some of the signature sizes and im not the only one. =p

ThomO

07-05-2011, 05:51 PM

Well youre semi-right.
Its not just one issue.
I always forget about the loading thing cuz i dont usually have problems with that but i do take issue with some of the signature sizes and im not the only one. =p

I'm sorry if I was unclear. I'll give it another try.

Issue: slow loading time for pages

Contributing Factors or Causes: large signature files, subpar internet speeds

If your internet speeds can handle Onlive but have difficulty dealing with these signatures. Then Onlive's algorithm is better than I thought.

Germaximus

07-05-2011, 06:04 PM

lol You werent unclear.

For me the size of the signature does not effect the loading time usually.
The problem i have with it is having to scroll down past the gigantic signature to get to the next post. And again im not the only one that see's it that way.

Ithian

07-05-2011, 06:15 PM

@KicknGuitar if you guys ever get fed up with it the change is an easy one but has to be made by an admin. Width, height, size, animated or not, iirc.

If your internet speeds can handle Onlive but have difficulty dealing with these signatures. Then Onlive's algorithm is better than I thought.

That takes the assumption that everyone browses this forum from the same connection they play OnLive from, which isn't always the case. Some people browse the forum on phones that don't have tapatalk, some people from work with slow connections.

There's also no sense in not optimizing a sig for the web. That 80k image in yours can easily be taken down in filesize without a noticeable degradation, even by photoshop bumpkins like me. As example this took a couple minutes and it's half the size.

http://i55.tinypic.com/o8zcbn.jpg

Images like this aren't as big a deal. Those 5MB animated gif sigs that the OP was talking about are impractical and silly. It isn't necessarily end-user as vB doesn't always handle loading big images very well. Plus the forum is set to fluid, so wide images can look strange depending on the user browser width. Lots of factors.

ThomO

07-05-2011, 06:42 PM

@KicknGuitar if you guys ever get fed up with it the change is an easy one but has to be made by an admin. Width, height, size, animated or not, iirc.

That takes the assumption that everyone browses this forum from the same connection they play OnLive from, which isn't always the case. Some people browse the forum on phones that don't have tapatalk, some people from work with slow connections.

There's also no sense in not optimizing a sig for the web. That 80k image in yours can easily be taken down in filesize without a noticeable degradation, even by photoshop bumpkins like me. As example this took a couple minutes and it's half the size.

http://i55.tinypic.com/o8zcbn.jpg

Images like this aren't as big a deal. Those 5MB animated gif sigs that the OP was talking about are impractical and silly. It isn't necessarily end-user as vB doesn't always handle loading big images very well. Plus the forum is set to fluid, so wide images can look strange depending on the user browser width. Lots of factors.

Solution for those browsing the web on their mobile devices: Onlive's 10 gb web browser coming this summer.

Ithian

07-05-2011, 06:50 PM

That isn't a solution; it's sidestepping the problem.

ThomO

07-05-2011, 07:12 PM

That isn't a solution; it's sidestepping the problem.

I was just joking. But the real problem is that your choosing to use a device with an inferior internet connection, but yet you are expecting your browsing experience to be the same as that of your local connection.

KicknGuitar

07-05-2011, 07:17 PM

I've been fed up (as you can read my comments on the matter here). Just not many people care for it so there hasn't really been any overruling action on the matter.

Thom0, the full spectrum of the complaint is being missed even by you.

People are coming to the forum to read.
If they want to see beautiful editing skills they'll click on a folio link or go visit folio related communities.

How this relates to our forum,
Large file sizes equal poor loading times.
Large image dimensions equal poor visibility on the screen.

All of these issues can re fixed by setting signature limits via the site's system.

What isn't helpful:
Blocking every image a user may dislike. As soon as a user posts a new image that falls into the "Large" formats, it must be blocked again.
Turning off signatures. If a user doesn't want to see any signatures they can easily turn them off, but if a user only has a issue with 1 out of every ten signatures clearly they don't mind a mindful signature appropriately designed.

Ithian

07-05-2011, 07:20 PM

I still gotta disagree with you ThomO. I think if there are things someone can do to optimize their artwork to get out to as many people as possible, without degrading the quality of their work, they should make the effort.

I've been fed up (as you can read my comments on the matter here). Just not many people care for it so there hasn't really been any overruling action on the matter.

Hear you there.

Esquire

07-05-2011, 10:54 PM

People are coming to the forum to read.
If they want to see beautiful editing skills they'll click on a folio link or go visit folio related communities.

...
Turning off signatures. If a user doesn't want to see any signatures they can easily turn them off, but if a user only has a issue with 1 out of every ten signatures clearly they don't mind a mindful signature appropriately designed.
I agree with the quoted portion of this post. I don't mind signatures at all, so as long as they're text only. I don't like images in signatures period, however. You have an avatar already.

ThomO, I don't care what games you have. If I did, I'd click your OnLive profile. And there are less intrusive ways of listing your games than that abomination, if you did want to list your games. I'm not trying to be hostile, offensive, or personally insulting here. I'm just trying to say I hate your signature and all others like it :)

Lord Xenu

07-05-2011, 10:58 PM

This has been going back and forth. No one seems to agree even all the way up to the admin level. We remove some and members get pissed. We leave them and members get pissed. There really is no win win with this.

Esquire

07-06-2011, 12:03 AM

You'll have to break some hearts then.

I just don't see the purpose in having a picture posted each and every time a poster posts. They have their avatar for forum recognition. This forum is the premiere OnLive forum. Cleaning up signatures would be a positive change, IMO.

How about increasing avatar dimensions and size slightly while killing image signatures?

KicknGuitar

07-06-2011, 01:20 AM

They way to win? Let's not make this an image board and impose the restrictions via the code.

There already is a Forum within OnLiveFans designated for discussing and sharing graphics.

Ryan DeJonghe

07-06-2011, 01:45 AM

Or just no animated gifs. They dont' make for a good reading experience and add nothing to the conversation.

And get you caught easier at work ;P

Andrew Johnson

07-06-2011, 09:15 AM

Theres already a restriction on how many characters you can use, there should just be a file size limit

KicknGuitar

07-06-2011, 12:21 PM

One of my favorite mods cropped signatures that were too big. so you may have a huge, stunning picture of your face but if it was larger than the mentioned dimensions, it was just cut off after those points.

glow

08-06-2011, 03:14 AM

http://onlivefans.com/showthread.php?10183-Unlimited-Cheers-jeers

Another example of how people are just going way too far... 2nd post in the thread. His one sentence reply now takes up my entire display. Is this really necessary?

AEON

08-07-2011, 01:24 PM

I hate hate hate hate that guy and his stupid Cristiano Ronaldo gifs!!! I want to punch him in the face :boxing:

Turkey62

08-07-2011, 01:49 PM

Yeah there's no need for exagerated crap like that soccer one, or pictures of game covers.

WttWoA

08-07-2011, 01:53 PM

you can disable signatures in your settings

glow

08-07-2011, 01:54 PM

you can disable signatures in your settings

We shouldn't need to disable all signatures because a select few have no self control.

Malel

08-07-2011, 02:57 PM

We shouldn't need to disable all signatures because a select few have no self control.

I personally agree, while some have stated...this is a forum not an image board.

It is nice to have some artistic expression in signatures, however when it takes up most of someone's screen with a wall of "I HAVE THESE GAMES" or animated gifs it is going well overboard.

KicknGuitar

08-07-2011, 03:03 PM

It's not that hard to install the mod to limit this shit...

Kyle Lenamon

08-07-2011, 05:32 PM

Its alright when you have something that says what games you have it gives alittle artistic value versus the text list

Esquire

08-07-2011, 05:37 PM

Its alright when you have something that says what games you have it gives alittle artistic value versus the text list
Says the guy with a signature that follows accordingly.

Let's just remove image signatures completely. What do they add? Nothing. They're all hideous.

Kyle Lenamon

08-07-2011, 05:56 PM

Hey i take offence to that >_> CaptCrunks Sig is beautiful

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 06:06 PM

Hey i take offence to that >_> CaptCrunks Sig is beautiful

Hey I wasn't even in this convo, but thanks for the compliment! lol

Malel

08-07-2011, 06:17 PM

Its alright when you have something that says what games you have it gives alittle artistic value versus the text list

See I actually like your sig, it isn't THAT big.
Any bigger and it would be a bit of a pain to scroll through constantly =P.
I personally keep my sig small and image free, then use my avatar for "artistic" stuff.

Defiant

08-07-2011, 06:20 PM

I completely agree that signature restrictions are needed.

Balamung

08-07-2011, 06:21 PM

That "I hate big sigs so I put a bigger sig OLOL" thing is getting annoying actually.

Yes I could turn off sigs but some contain actual informations and are useful.

I thought we were between grown up adults which could solve an opposition without being so dumb.

Esquire

08-07-2011, 06:23 PM

I thought we were between grown up adults which could solve an opposition without being so dumb.
I disagree on your definition of dumb.

As for solving opposition, what's changed since the creation of this thread?

Balamung

08-07-2011, 06:25 PM

what's changed since the creation of this thread?

Trolls came in.

Malel

08-07-2011, 06:29 PM

I disagree on your definition of dumb.

As for solving opposition, what's changed since the creation of this thread?

It is something we've been talking about for a while as well. If I had permission to do so, I would resize signatures and replace them myself.
Otherwise the only person who can change this is admin.

Esquire

08-07-2011, 06:39 PM

Just to clarify my stance:

I don't find value in signatures, generally. With avatars, you can easily identify a poster. But on this forum, signatures can be helpful. For example, listing your OnLive tag, current multiplayer games being played. Signatures on this forum can help foster the community.

We don't need images in signatures to do that. How do images help? Now, if I can't convince the admins here to disable image signatures completely, can you guys at least impose some reasonable limits on them? That way, I can still read a thread and not be annoyed by a person's signature. It is a pain to read threads on an iPad. Has anyone here other than me looked at this forum on an iPad? Sometimes, I'll just ignore the forum entirely just because it can be such a pain.

Keep in mind the continually growing tablet community when thinking about the future direction of this forum. OnLive sees their service as a huge boon to tablet gaming. Why would OnLive Fans want to handicap themselves to that particular community?

I shouldn't have to disable signatures on the forum as a solution. That is a disingenuous "solution."

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 06:39 PM

There. I can be a dick too guys. Maybe admin can step in and end the pissing contest.

Esquire

08-07-2011, 06:41 PM

You're actually just arguing for his position with that signature change.

glow

08-07-2011, 06:43 PM

There. I can be a dick too guys. Maybe admin can step in and end the pissing contest.

Do you understand the reason we are doing this? It isn't to be dicks to everyone. It's to display the clearly needed sig restrictions.

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 06:44 PM

You're actually just arguing for his position with that signature change.

I'm arguing that gigantic, pointless, troll sigs should be banned. I don't think my original 468x200 sig bothered ANYONE else, it's an entirely reasonable size.

glow

08-07-2011, 06:48 PM

I'm arguing that gigantic, pointless, troll sigs should be banned. I don't think my original 468x200 sig bothered ANYONE else, it's an entirely reasonable size.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/624/deskxk.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/deskxk.jpg/)

So you're saying that you should be able to make a sig that encompasses my entire 15.1 inch display? How do you think tablet / phone browsers feel?

Also... If I really wanted to be a dick I would have made it a 200 meg 10000x10000 raw image. But I'm not doing it to be a dick, I'm doing it to make a point.

Esquire

08-07-2011, 06:48 PM

I'm arguing that gigantic, pointless, troll sigs should be banned. I don't think my original 468x200 sig bothered ANYONE else, it's an entirely reasonable size.
It bothered me.

And how do you define a reasonable size? I would never have defined yours as reasonable. What's a reasonable size to you? What resolution are you running, monitor size, RAM, internet connection speed, tablet?, mobile?, etc., etc.

spartanmastah

08-07-2011, 06:49 PM

Do you understand the reason we are doing this? It isn't to be dicks to everyone. It's to display the clearly needed sig restrictions.

Its funny how your Argueing about Signatures, and yet your signature is an Abomination.

that Badly Drawn Smiley face makes me want to punch my Computer screen.

Balamung

08-07-2011, 06:50 PM

Do you understand the reason we are doing this? It isn't to be dicks to everyone. It's to display the clearly needed sig restrictions.

Are you the kind of people who, when a neighbour is making a little too much noise, you just put music all sound at max with huge bass "so that he understands that he makes too much noise" ?

Yes, this kind of attitude generally help you be friend with everyone.

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 06:50 PM

glow

08-07-2011, 06:52 PM

It doesn't matter to be honest.

If the forum isn't formatted for a tiny display that's not my problem. It's simply not designed for that.

I'll also state that MOST images on the internet are around the same size, if not bigger than 468x200. You are in the VAST minority here. Like I said before, if you can't handle sigs on your display, shut em off. It's that easy.

If you find my sig annoying, you have the same option. Turn them off. Also, my "tiny display" is the same resolution that 85%+ of all notebooks use. I don't know where you're getting the idea that vBulletin wasn't designed for notebooks.

Just because you don't think you're being annoying, doesn't give you the right to tell people what they're allowed to consider annoying themselves.

Are you the kind of people who, when a neighbour is making a little too much noise, you just put music all sound at max with huge bass "so that he understands that he makes too much noise" ?

Yes, this kind of attitude generally help you be friend with everyone.

This wasn't my first attempt. Go read the original date of this thread... Nothing was done.

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 06:54 PM

glow

08-07-2011, 06:56 PM

The fact that you can't see the flaw in your own reasoning is astounding.

Mind pointing it out?

As far as I can tell, your reasoning is that vBulletin isn't designed for 15.1 inch notebook displays.

Esquire

08-07-2011, 06:57 PM

Are you the kind of people who, when a neighbour is making a little too much noise, you just put music all sound at max with huge bass "so that he understands that he makes too much noise" ?

Yes, this kind of attitude generally help you be friend with everyone.
The neighbor's door was knocked on when this thread was created three months ago. There were also posts made in other topics.

If the forum isn't formatted for a tiny display that's not my problem. It's simply not designed for that.
Do you realize how selfish your post sounds? It's not my forum but I'd imagine I wouldn't want to dissuade tablet and mobile viewers (let's exclude Tapatalk for a moment for phone users) from viewing my forum. Because, you know, this is an OnLive forum and OnLive sees that particular crowd as a major market.

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 07:01 PM

The neighbor's door was knocked on when this thread was created three months ago. There were also posts made in other topics.

Do you realize how selfish your post sounds? It's not my forum but I'd imagine I wouldn't want to dissuade tablet and mobile viewers (let's exclude Tapatalk for a moment for phone users) from viewing my forum. Because, you know, this is an OnLive forum and OnLive sees that particular crowd as a major market.

It's not selfish, it's a fact.

MOST of the internet is designed for, at minimum, 900 pixels of viewing width. A large percentage for 1280 pixels of viewing width, minimum. Vbulletin isn't designed with netbooks and tablets in mind.

WttWoA

08-07-2011, 07:01 PM

the reason that nothing was done was that apparently not too many people cared about it until you two decided to do this

glow

08-07-2011, 07:01 PM

The fact that you can't see the flaw in your own reasoning is astounding.

If you're going to be the one to start crying about sig size because they're taking up YOUR screen, then demand that everyone else not have sigs altogether or disable them because of you two's ridiculous and pointless "sigs" and refuse to shut them off so that you may continue to browse. Then I don't think anyone here is going to be able to reason with you.

Actually, my reasoning is working wonderfully. Notice all the other members now chiming into the thread (3 months after the thread was made and then ignored) saying they don't like it either?

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 07:03 PM

Actually, my reasoning is working wonderfully. Notice all the other members now chiming into the thread (3 months after the thread was made and then ignored) saying they don't like it either?

.....

Saying how they don't like your monstrosity...yes. I do notice that.

ThomO

08-07-2011, 07:03 PM

All of the sigs on the forum are reasonable except for those of glow and esquire.

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 07:03 PM

And by the way....It can't possibly bother you that much if you don't mind scrolling through your BS sig every time you make a new post and need to go reply with some more unfounded and less-than-sound reasoning.

Balamung

08-07-2011, 07:04 PM

You upset everyone and then you think they support you ? If nobody cared, then nobody cared.

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 07:06 PM

glow

08-07-2011, 07:08 PM

You upset everyone and then you think they support you ? If nobody cared, then nobody cared.

You read wrong...

I hate hate hate hate that guy and his stupid Cristiano Ronaldo gifs!!! I want to punch him in the face :boxing:

Yeah there's no need for exagerated crap like that soccer one, or pictures of game covers.

I personally agree, while some have stated...this is a forum not an image board.

It is nice to have some artistic expression in signatures, however when it takes up most of someone's screen with a wall of "I HAVE THESE GAMES" or animated gifs it is going well overboard.

It's not that hard to install the mod to limit this shit...

I completely agree that signature restrictions are needed.

Charles wong

08-07-2011, 07:08 PM

Eat a fuckin pie

KicknGuitar

08-07-2011, 07:08 PM

THIS FORUM IS NOT AN IMAGE BOARD WHY DO WE NOT HAVE A SIGNATURE LIMIT?

NOR IS IT A SITE FOR THOSE GOING BLIND

A MOD CAN EASILY BE INSTALLED TO LIMIT SIGNATURES.
SEE http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=133834

LOUD TYPE FACE!

:yo:

Malel

08-07-2011, 07:08 PM

FURTHERMORE, if you go back to those that maybe DID agree with you....Did you take note of what their solution was?

It wasn't to cry and make a gigantic, poster board-sized, atrocious sig in retaliation; It was to DISABLE THEM. That's why the option is there. That's why you should use it. Period.

Actually no, disabling is not a solution it's a handicap.

There needs to be simple size limitations, nothing dramatic to where we have microscopic signatures but to where space is better used for people who don't come here for the posts, not the images.

WttWoA

08-07-2011, 07:09 PM

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 07:10 PM

There is NO DOUBT size restrictions should be in place.

But I'm saying this character has gone overboard and is going about this in entirely the wrong way.

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 07:11 PM

glow

08-07-2011, 07:12 PM

so what if people want to post images of their games, i have no complaint at all and i actually like the fact that Thom0 put images of his games for his signatures, they arent too big to be annoying, or too small to not be able to read, its lets us all know what games he has and increases the chance of people wanting to play the multiplayer games he has with him

We're not talking about signatures like yours. We're talking about sigs that have a speed test stacked on top of a ping test stacked on top of 2 animated gifs stacked onto a text (or image) list of games. People can fit everything they need to within a 200~ pixel height.

Esquire

08-07-2011, 07:13 PM

It's not selfish, it's a fact.

MOST of the internet is designed for, at minimum, 900 pixels of viewing width. A large percentage for 1280 pixels of viewing width, minimum. Vbulletin isn't designed with netbooks and tablets in mind.
Width isn't my only complaint.

And once again, vbulletin might not be designed with netbooks and tablets in mind, but you have to recognize the purpose of this forum. If it were a netbook or tablet forum, shouldn't that forum recognize its crowd? Further, OnLive is targeting that particular market. As such, shouldn't this forum do what it can to make the forum as satisfactory as possible for that crowd?

All of the sigs on the forum are reasonable except for those of glow and esquire.
Your signature is only a few pixels away from being as wide as mine.

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 07:14 PM

We're not talking about signatures like yours. We're talking about sigs that have a speed test stacked on top of a ping test stacked on top of 2 animated gifs stacked onto a text (or image) list of games. People can fit everything they need to within a 200~ pixel height.

...Like mine?

The reason people have Pingtest and Speedtest results in their sig is for easy reference to others when troubleshooting problems in the tech board.

glow

08-07-2011, 07:14 PM

^^Exactly.

You have since removed one of your images that was on top, however you could just as easily set the two you have now side by side instead of stacking them for no reason... It's just needless space being used.

It's not selfish, it's a fact.

MOST of the internet is designed for, at minimum, 900 pixels of viewing width. A large percentage for 1280 pixels of viewing width, minimum. Vbulletin isn't designed with netbooks and tablets in mind.

My display is 1366 pixels wide. You can go back to my screenshot and see what your previous sig was doing to my display.

Esquire

08-07-2011, 07:16 PM

The reason people have Pingtest and Speedtest results in their sig is for easy reference to others when troubleshooting problems in the tech board.
Download 30.56 mbps, Upload 7.55 mbps, 15 ms ping, Comcast Cable.

KicknGuitar

08-07-2011, 07:16 PM

Download 30.56 mbps, Upload 7.55 mbps, 15 ms ping, Comcast Cable.

You have since removed one of your images that was on top, however you could just as easily set the two you have now side by side instead of stacking them for no reason... It's just needless space being used.
Cha-ching! Logistics and spacial awareness to the rescue!

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 07:20 PM

You're so ass backwards in your attempts to change things that it's hilarious.

"THE BOARD HAZ TOO MANY PIKTURZ!"

"I MAKE BIG PICTURZ EVRYWARE TO SHOW DEM!"

ThomO

08-07-2011, 07:22 PM

Your signature is only a few pixels away from being as wide as mine.

lol... Somehow you missed an entire dimension.

KicknGuitar

08-07-2011, 07:25 PM

You're so ass backwards in your attempts to change things that it's hilarious.

"THE BOARD HAZ TOO MANY PIKTURZ!"

"I MAKE BIG PICTURZ EVRYWARE TO SHOW DEM!"

If you could actually held a serious and respectful discussion on the subject you might actually see both sides of the picture.

The point of the amplification is to exaggerate and show how not everyone has the same tastes as you and to show how easily this issue has reoccured where a admin had to request a user to edit their sig.

A mod can solve a lot of these issues, restricting characters, image counts, line counts, possibly image file size and maybe more.

This also indirectly forces the user to not post an image so carelessly in their signature since now they must turn on their spacial awareness for fitting all they want into a limited space.

Supporting a Mod will still allow signatures to be viewed, and will only increase creativity.

WttWoA

08-07-2011, 07:25 PM

You're so ass backwards in your attempts to change things that it's hilarious.

"THE BOARD HAZ TOO MANY PIKTURZ!"

"I MAKE BIG PICTURZ EVRYWARE TO SHOW DEM!"

so true. why not pm the admin, wait until he replies, and if he hasnt in a few days, try again until you get a response from him, but dont harass him. and wait until you get a final response from him. not everyone will be pleased with any one decision. i dont have a widescreen monitor, i have the benefit of viewing forums and pages better, but i have a disadvantage when it comes to widescreen viewing, and people with a widescreen monitor, laptop, netbook, etc. have the reverse. i dont go around the forum complaining about onlive on how there's black bars on the top and bottom of most the games

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 07:27 PM

so true. why not pm the admin, wait until he replies, and if he hasnt in a few days, try again until you get a response from him, but dont harass him. and wait until you get a final response from him. not everyone will be pleased with any one decision. i dont have a widescreen monitor, i have the benefit of viewing forums and pages better, but i have a disadvantage when it comes to widescreen viewing, and people with a widescreen monitor, laptop, netbook, etc. have the reverse.

This.

This sort of behavior would be ban-worthy on some boards I visit. There's nothing respectful and mature about posting the very thing you are demanding be taken down when nobody else on this board has anything even REMOTELY close to it. AT the very least everyone has a personal interest or something related to the service or themselves in their sig. Yours are just large files and an eyesore that cause even more problems for people who may be suffering from the same problem as yourselves.

Do you bring awareness to animal cruelty by slaughtering puppies in the street?

glow

08-07-2011, 07:27 PM

glow

08-07-2011, 07:29 PM

This.

This sort of behavior would be ban-worthy on some boards I visit.

Why are you getting so worked up? If you don't like the huge signatures, just disable them the same as you suggested to me.

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 07:30 PM

This thread has been here for months...

And when did you PM Eddie?

KicknGuitar

08-07-2011, 07:31 PM

And when did you PM Eddie?

Eddie has known about our concern for quite a while. There has been a few threads in the Mod Board. It was typically left with no direct answer.

glow

08-07-2011, 07:31 PM

And when did you PM Eddie?

So if I have a suggestion, now not only do I have to post in the dedicated suggestions forum, but I also have to PM the board owner? No thanks.

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 07:34 PM

So if I have a suggestion, now not only do I have to post in the dedicated suggestions forum, but I also have to PM the board owner? No thanks.

So you don't think you should pursue all possible avenues to contact the person who can actually MAKE the change you want?

It's the same 3, 4, or 5 people taking this to the extreme with the wallpaper sized sig. Obviously, not everyone else gives a shit.

Ithian

08-07-2011, 07:35 PM

A mod can solve a lot of these issues, restricting characters, image counts, line counts, possibly image file size and maybe more.

Don't need a sig mod for these things. All of them are included with a vb install in the admin control panel. Just a matter of going in and changing them.

Esquire

08-07-2011, 07:35 PM

It's the same 3, 4, or 5 people taking this to the extreme with the wallpaper sized sig. Obviously, not everyone else gives a shit.
Your statement should be qualified. This only started in the past two hours. Give it a few days and maybe more posters will join the cause.

glow

08-07-2011, 07:36 PM

So you don't think you should pursue all possible avenues to contact the person who can actually MAKE the change you want?

It's the same 3, 4, or 5 people taking this to the extreme with the wallpaper sized sig. Obviously, not everyone else gives a shit.

Obviously quite a few people do give a shit. Take a look at the listed quotes I made of like 5 people + kickn/esquire. That's 7 people just in the past few hours. The world doesn't revolve around you...

KicknGuitar

08-07-2011, 07:37 PM

Don't need a sig mod for these things. All of them are included with a vb install in the admin control panel. Just a matter of going in and changing them.

When Ed replied he said there weren't any controls for what we requested and nothing happened after.

Is this signature annoying you?

Want to get rid of other's annoyingly large signatures?

Please let the staff know we need a Sig Mod

Such as this Sig Mod (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=133834)

@

http://onlivefans.com/showthread.php?7867-Please-impose-signature-restrictions

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1710/annoyingr.png (http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1710/annoyingr.png)

^ My Beautiful Face Above ^

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 07:38 PM

Obviously quite a few people do give a shit. Take a look at the listed quotes I made of like 5 people + kickn/esquire. That's 7 people just in the past few hours. The world doesn't revolve around you...

If it weren't for myself and the others arguing AGAINST YOUR particular brand of bullshit signature this thread would be dead and ignored like it was for the last month. We're just tired of staring at them.

KicknGuitar

08-07-2011, 07:39 PM

If it weren't for myself and the others arguing AGAINST YOUR particular brand of bullshit signature this thread would be dead and ignored like it was for the last month. We're just tired of staring at them.

Captain, Please be a little more respectful with your posts.

Is this signature annoying you?

Want to get rid of other's annoyingly large signatures?

Please let the staff know we need a Sig Mod

Such as this Sig Mod (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=133834)

@

http://onlivefans.com/showthread.php?7867-Please-impose-signature-restrictions

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1710/annoyingr.png (http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1710/annoyingr.png)

^ My Beautiful Face Above ^

WttWoA

08-07-2011, 07:39 PM

Obviously quite a few people do give a shit. Take a look at the listed quotes I made of like 5 people + kickn/esquire. That's 7 people just in the past few hours. The world doesn't revolve around you...

the probably agree just because of your signature and how big it is.

since you never got a reply by an admin, did you think of asking some of the people to remove their images/gifs, because maybe they didn't think that they would see it as being annoying?

Esquire

08-07-2011, 07:40 PM

We're just tired of staring at them.
LOL

10 characters

glow

08-07-2011, 07:41 PM

If it weren't for myself and the others arguing AGAINST YOUR particular brand of bullshit signature this thread would be dead and ignored like it was for the last month. We're just tired of staring at them.

Not sure why you're so angry, but you're definitely not reading well. The following is all from today:

I hate hate hate hate that guy and his stupid Cristiano Ronaldo gifs!!! I want to punch him in the face :boxing:

Yeah there's no need for exagerated crap like that soccer one, or pictures of game covers.

I personally agree, while some have stated...this is a forum not an image board.

It is nice to have some artistic expression in signatures, however when it takes up most of someone's screen with a wall of "I HAVE THESE GAMES" or animated gifs it is going well overboard.

It's not that hard to install the mod to limit this shit...

I completely agree that signature restrictions are needed.

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 07:41 PM

spartanmastah

08-07-2011, 07:42 PM

KicknGuitar

08-07-2011, 07:43 PM

It's disruptive to EVERYONE, not a small portion of us.

That's the reason why these overly loud signatures were made...

Is this signature annoying you?

Want to get rid of other's annoyingly large signatures?

Please let the staff know we need a Sig Mod

Such as this Sig Mod (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=133834)

@

http://onlivefans.com/showthread.php?7867-Please-impose-signature-restrictions

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1710/annoyingr.png (http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1710/annoyingr.png)

^ My Beautiful Face Above ^

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 07:43 PM

That's the reason why these overly loud signatures were made...

Is this signature annoying you?

Want to get rid of other's annoyingly large signatures?

Please let the staff know we need a Sig Mod

Such as this Sig Mod (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=133834)

@

http://onlivefans.com/showthread.php?7867-Please-impose-signature-restrictions

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1710/annoyingr.png (http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1710/annoyingr.png)

^ My Beautiful Face Above ^

Solve the problem by causing more of one? Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Ithian

08-07-2011, 07:44 PM

When Ed replied he said there weren't any controls for what we requested and nothing happened after.

PM sent...

glow

08-07-2011, 07:44 PM

No. I'm not wrong here.

Your sigs are extreme and ridiculous. This is not how ANYTHING has ever been handled around here. Everyone is forced to take things to PM and go through the appropriate channels. Just because a mod has jumped on this bandwagon doesn't make it any more correct. It's disruptive to EVERYONE, not a small portion of us.

I made a suggestion already in the appropriate channel. You're posting in it right now like an irate lunatic.

Calm down... You don't need to read this thread if you don't want to. You can also disable my signature (which is within forum rules) in your settings panel.

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 07:45 PM

glow

08-07-2011, 07:45 PM

Before this Thread, there was Only one Guy who had a Relativley Large Signature. But at least his is Relativley Decent to look at.
Large Sigs were never a Problem, Its only until this thread that Large, Troll Sigs started appearing. Just to Showcase a Problem, that wasnt a Problem to begin with.

Verdict: We dont need a Sig mod, We just need to kill this thread.

In my eyes, and I'm sure in others, your own signature is large and annoying. Why exactly do we need to look at tall animated gifs of The Office in a gaming forum?

WttWoA

08-07-2011, 07:46 PM

In my eyes, and I'm sure in others, your own signature is large an annoying. Why exactly do we need to look at tall animated gifs of The Office in a gaming forum?

why do we need to look at your giant image? is the line of text not enough? hell if you'd take the image down id even put the text in my signature and take my borderlands signature down.

spartanmastah

08-07-2011, 07:48 PM

In my eyes, and I'm sure in others, your own signature is large and annoying. Why exactly do we need to look at tall animated gifs of The Office in a gaming forum?

My Sig Isnt a Gigantic, Badly drawn smiley face.
Or a Large Troll face...Or an Incredibly Tall Sig Warning us about incredibly tall sigs.

My Signature is Small, Somewhat Funny, and Has Personality to it.

ThomO

08-07-2011, 07:48 PM

So true. This is ridiculous.

I agree this thread is a waste of space.

glow

08-07-2011, 07:48 PM

why do we need to look at your giant image?

That's the point, we shouldn't have to look at either of them.

Option 1 - We have do deal with annoying signatures like his for the foreseeable future.
Option 2- We have to look at annoying signatures like his AND MINE and generate an awareness that people don't agree with the current signature setup.

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 07:48 PM

I made a suggestion already in the appropriate channel. You're posting in it right now like an irate lunatic.

Calm down... You don't need to read this thread if you don't want to. You can also disable my signature (which is within forum rules) in your settings panel.

It's the principal of the thing.

This all started because some peoples sigs which are HALF THE SIZE of yours made you a little butthurt, so you went and made this post. Once you realized very few fellow posters cared, you made your troll sig to gain attention. You could have requested that the member who's sig was too large please make it smaller. You could have established a line of contact with Ed or another Admin. You also could have disabled them yourself until the issue was solved. Instead, you created this ridiculous image that we all have to stare at because MOST sigs don't bother us. You seem to have very strict guidelines on what's not annoying to you; while everyone can agree yours is absurd.

WttWoA

08-07-2011, 07:50 PM

My Sig Isnt a Gigantic, Badly drawn smiley face.
Or a Large Troll face...Or an Incredibly Tall Sig Warning us about incredibly tall sigs.

My Signature is Small, and even Somewhat Funny.

i personally dont mind it and it reminds me of the song everytime i see it.

and the second .gif is true about people hating .gif images in signatures:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lok4fcgSkC1qcirp0.gif

Esquire

08-07-2011, 07:50 PM

Before this Thread, there was Only one Guy who had a Relativley Large Signature. But at least his is Relativley Decent to look at.
Large Sigs were never a Problem, Its only until this thread that Large, Troll Sigs started appearing. Just to Showcase a Problem, that wasnt even a Problem to begin with.

Verdict: We dont need a Sig mod, We just need to kill this thread.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lok4fcgSkC1qcirp0.gif

My Sig Isnt a Gigantic, Badly drawn smiley face.
Or a Large Troll face...Or an Incredibly Tall Sig Warning us about incredibly tall sigs.

My Signature is Small, Somewhat Funny, and Has Personality to it.
LOL

spartanmastah

08-07-2011, 07:51 PM

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lok4fcgSkC1qcirp0.gif

Indeed Good sir, Haters are going to hate.

glow

08-07-2011, 07:51 PM

It's the principal of the thing.

This all started because some peoples sigs which are HALF THE SIZE of yours made you a little butthurt, so you went and made this post. Once you realized very few fellow posters cared, you made your troll sig to gain attention. You could have requested that the member who's sig was too large please make it smaller. You could have established a line of contact with Ed or another Admin. You also could have disabled them yourself until the issue was solved. Instead, you created this ridiculous image that we all have to stare at because MOST sigs don't bother us. You seem to have very strict guidelines on what's not annoying to you; while everyone can agree yours is absurd.

You just keep getting more and more mad. Seriously man, this is just an internet forum for video games. It's not serious business. Caaaalllmmmm dowwwnnnn. You don't need to read this thread if you don't want to.

Further, As you can see in one of my previous posts, it isn't just me. It's quite a few people.

KicknGuitar

08-07-2011, 07:51 PM

Solve the problem by causing more of one? Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
I am not a grass roots campaign designer/organizer/logistics engineer, so if this doesn't hit you, I don't know what else to say. I guess create a thread or contact the staff about our large sigs.

Is this signature annoying you?

Want to get rid of other's annoyingly large signatures?

Please let the staff know we need a Sig Mod

Such as this Sig Mod (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=133834)

@

http://onlivefans.com/showthread.php?7867-Please-impose-signature-restrictions

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1710/annoyingr.png (http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1710/annoyingr.png)

^ My Beautiful Face Above ^

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 07:53 PM

You just keep getting more and more mad. Seriously man, this is just an internet forum for video games. It's not serious business. Caaaalllmmmm dowwwnnnn. You don't need to read this thread if you don't want to.

Further, As you can see in one of my previous posts, it isn't just me. It's quite a few people.

I'm not mad. Don't give yourself too much credit.

I'm simply emphasizing the fact that this whole thing is beyond stupid and more people simply don't care than agree with you; and the resounding majority hate your bs sig and think it is a disruption.

glow

08-07-2011, 07:54 PM

I'm not mad. Don't give yourself too much credit.

I'm simply emphasizing the fact that this whole thing is beyond stupid and more people simply don't care than agree with you; and the resounding majority hate your bs sig and think it is a disruption.

I'd hardly call 4 people "the resounding majority". Regardless though, we have differing opinions. You should just accept that and move on.

Esquire

08-07-2011, 07:55 PM

more people simply don't care than agree with you; and the resounding majority hate your bs sig and think it is a disruption.
For whom do you speak and how did you get this entire forum's proxy votes in a matter of hours?

spartanmastah

08-07-2011, 08:01 PM

As I've said before, this Thread didnt need to exist.

You're Complaining about a "Problem" That Didn't even exist to Begin with, and Are actually Creating the Problem by having Gigantic Troll Signatures.
13 Pages of Trolling, Congrats.

Kyle Lenamon

08-07-2011, 08:02 PM

take down the giant sigs you are defeating the purpose of them

glow

08-07-2011, 08:03 PM

As I said before, this Thread didnt need to exist.
You're Complaining about a "Problem" That Didn't even exist to Begin with, and Are actually Creating the Problem by having Gigantic Troll Signatures.

13 Pages of Trolling, Congrats.

There's a bunch of people that did think it was a problem. Also keep in mind that this thread was created months ago, long before any of these huge signatures came about.

Esquire

08-07-2011, 08:04 PM

glow

08-07-2011, 08:06 PM

take down the giant sigs you are defeating the purpose of them

This is just funny... coming from the guy with a deceptive affiliate link in his sig. That's another thing that really shouldn't be allowed.

KicknGuitar

08-07-2011, 08:06 PM

take down the giant sigs you are defeating the purpose of them
Write to a Staff member or make a thread.

Is this signature annoying you?

Want to get rid of other's annoyingly large signatures?

Please let the staff know we need a Sig Mod

Such as this Sig Mod (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=133834)

@

http://onlivefans.com/showthread.php?7867-Please-impose-signature-restrictions

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1710/annoyingr.png (http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1710/annoyingr.png)

^ My Beautiful Face Above ^

spartanmastah

08-07-2011, 08:06 PM

There's a bunch of people that did think it was a problem. Also keep in mind that this thread was created months ago, long before any of these huge signatures came about.

"Whiny Voice> Son of a Biiiiitch, One guy has a Relativley Wide, Yet decent to look at Signaturrrrrre. Let's make this a Big issue by making a Troll thread! =DD <Whiny Voice"

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 08:06 PM

http://onlivefans.com/showthread.php?10226-POLL-Should-THESE-giant-sigs-be-allowed-to-continue

^^See this thread. Vote in the poll. That simple.

Balamung

08-07-2011, 08:08 PM

The fact that the thread existed since long ago doesn't give you credit.

You forced people to be concerned by using these pics. Of course seeing these people will say "Oh I hate huge sigs".
Without that, people would do as they did since the topic opened : Don't care.

I want the mod for sure, but that's not the manner to do it.

KicknGuitar

08-07-2011, 08:09 PM

http://onlivefans.com/showthread.php?10226-POLL-Should-THESE-giant-sigs-be-allowed-to-continue

^^See this thread. Vote in the poll. That simple.

Thank you captain.

Att. Future rude, unnecessary, distracting otherwise entirely disrespectful posts will be give no warning and infractions will be handed out.

Esquire

08-07-2011, 08:11 PM

http://onlivefans.com/showthread.php?10226-POLL-Should-THESE-giant-sigs-be-allowed-to-continue

^^See this thread. Vote in the poll. That simple.
This poll is so stupid. Of course those signatures should not exist. That's the point of them. You... You really didn't think your poll as legitimate or relevant to this signature discussion, did you? I hope not.

glow

08-07-2011, 08:11 PM

http://onlivefans.com/showthread.php?10226-POLL-Should-THESE-giant-sigs-be-allowed-to-continue

^^See this thread. Vote in the poll. That simple.

So you put up a poll asking if 3 people's signatures shouldn't be allowed. What about the other annoying, large, animated nonsense sigs? Can you get any more biased?

CaptCRUNK

08-07-2011, 08:13 PM

So you put up a poll asking if 3 people's signatures shouldn't be allowed. What about the other annoying, large, animated nonsense sigs? Can you get any more biased?

I'm not mad. Don't give yourself too much credit.

I'm simply emphasizing the fact that this whole thing is beyond stupid and more people simply don't care than agree with you; and the resounding majority hate your bs sig and think it is a disruption.

Please see above.

As others have said, most people just didn't care until these monster sigs appeared. THEY are the problem.