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Alex
12-05-2009, 06:01 AM
A N900 Nintendo emmulator was apparently demoed by Nintendo itself.

Then there were all these stupid fan boy sites with indignent stuff about Nintendo crushing Nokia over this- I think it would be Nokia that would crush Nintendo.

Then Apple approved Nintendo apps on its app store. And there was more of the same nonsensical claims going around as if Apple would have to fear Nintendo.

Nintendo clearly has a software only future ahead of it so its only natural for the nose thumbing on the part of Apple and Nokia. Also, what exactly is Nintendo going to do about it. Is there one of those stupid IP agreements like the kind that allows Monsanto to be part of making everything out of corn to manipulate prices below market by keeping farmers from reselling their horid seed? Does Nintendo have one of those agreements where water rights are stolen from indigenous people and they are are not allowed to collect rain water on threat of violance but must pay the equivalent of protection money for water? Does Nintendo have windows monopoly envy?

Maybe the behind the scenes people and politicians have realized how insanely backwards and inequitable the console market system is and they are going to give it the RIAA treatment and its now open season on their little unacceptable toll road.

Notice how there are no reviews for MS's Zune Video Market Place that streams 1080P or even stream captures it for you at BD quality for better than BD prices even on rental? If there are review they come from Austrailia and they are all about try to misslead people on the fraud called bandwidth caps. Somehow in AU Sony must have too much influence and its possible to tell people that firms are allowed to misrepresent their stated bandwidth or how they sell bandwidth. The same articles over and over again try to suggest tie ins as a solution to what they term the hidden bandwidth cap costs involved with 1080p Zune streaming service. Of course tie ins are the ultimate in anti neutrality and exactly the wrong direction.

Aph0ticShield
12-06-2009, 04:48 AM
Nintendo? Destined to become a software company? Is this a joke? Nintendo has been all about the hardware. They are the ones selling the most consoles because they have had motion control years before any other company dreamed of it. There is absolutely no reason why they would stop innovating now. In fact, it seems that their games are much worse then their technology. Even if it isn't HD.

Lord Xenu
12-06-2009, 09:32 AM
Actually, a few other companies have innovated only to go software only. Atari and Sega are perfect examples. Sega was pushing far beyond Sony and nintendo during the dreamcast era. Sadly they almost lost it all, only to learn that hardware was no longer for them. Atari tried to innovate with the jaguar but it failed and wad more or less the nail in the coffin for them.

Now if you take nintendo, they were blowing systems out the door. We all knew sales would stall at some point. Proof is this year to last I believe it was a 56% decrease in sales. The console, while having some tremendous titles, is lacking in the software department. They are also suffering the same fate as the dreamcast with pirates ripping them a new one on the ds and wii. Easy to hack and requires little skill to do so. While the motion control is a neat idea, most people use secondary controller options due to lack of total control minus that if motion plus. The new silent hill game is the only recent game to use the motion controller to it's full extent in quite a while.

While saying Nintendo is on it's way out is far fetched, hopefully they are going to take notice as to what they need to do to stay competitive. Price drops are going on everywhere, making it easier for gamers to own ALL systems. Opening up game libraries to the extended masses. They also need to learn that the "casual gamer" isn't the only type with the wii. The hardcore are there as well. While some mature rated titles have come out, the majority of them are feeling as if they have been left out.

We will have to see where nintendo goes from here. They have plenty of time to start swinging. Let's hope they do.

Alex
12-12-2009, 07:52 AM
Nintendo? Destined to become a software company? Is this a joke? Nintendo has been all about the hardware. They are the ones selling the most consoles because they have had motion control years before any other company dreamed of it. There is absolutely no reason why they would stop innovating now. In fact, it seems that their games are much worse then their technology. Even if it isn't HD.

Motion control items had been around for decades before Nintendo got it, even, probably even prior to their own power glove. MS did some motion stuff on the PC side with Freestyle before the Wii.

Alex
12-12-2009, 07:58 AM
Actually, a few other companies have innovated only to go software only. Atari and Sega are perfect examples. Sega was pushing far beyond Sony and nintendo during the dreamcast era. Sadly they almost lost it all, only to learn that hardware was no longer for them. Atari tried to innovate with the jaguar but it failed and wad more or less the nail in the coffin for them.

Now if you take nintendo, they were blowing systems out the door. We all knew sales would stall at some point. Proof is this year to last I believe it was a 56% decrease in sales. The console, while having some tremendous titles, is lacking in the software department. They are also suffering the same fate as the dreamcast with pirates ripping them a new one on the ds and wii. Easy to hack and requires little skill to do so. While the motion control is a neat idea, most people use secondary controller options due to lack of total control minus that if motion plus. The new silent hill game is the only recent game to use the motion controller to it's full extent in quite a while.

While saying Nintendo is on it's way out is far fetched, hopefully they are going to take notice as to what they need to do to stay competitive. Price drops are going on everywhere, making it easier for gamers to own ALL systems. Opening up game libraries to the extended masses. They also need to learn that the "casual gamer" isn't the only type with the wii. The hardcore are there as well. While some mature rated titles have come out, the majority of them are feeling as if they have been left out.

We will have to see where nintendo goes from here. They have plenty of time to start swinging. Let's hope they do.

Some might try to bring up Nintendo's handhelds (Nintendo always tried to blur the categories when it was way behind) but if Nintendo didn't do well this time it would have been the third trouncing. MS beat Nintendo with the first Xbox, it outsold Game Cube during its life time. Sony beat Nintendo for two generations. I also have questioned their financials, I think they get a lot of proping up from their government but will also admit that they are very kid safe and appropriate in a way that generates trust with parents in some cases almost exclusively.

Its kind of hard to see why the motion plus technology wasn't included and taken advantage of from the start. If they've finally nailed it why couldn't they have doen that from the start? I think this speaks to their doing a packaging marketing job as apposed to real innovation. Their Wii is like two Game Cubes crammed in a disk drive enclosure, nothing wrong with that but its not all that cutting edge. The got the power up to a threshold and then launched with a new control motiff applied to their proven kid formula.